Left-leaning states may consider secession if President Trump wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote as he did in 2016, a columnist for the New York Times says in a new podcast.
Michelle Goldberg, an op-ed columnist for The Times and a contributor to MSNBC, made the comments during the Oct. 8 edition of The Argument, a podcast hosted by her and fellow columnist Ross Douthat. Much of the podcast focused on what would happen if Trump loses the election and refuses to leave office, but Douthat proposed a different scenario: What if America experiences a repeat of 2016, but “with an even bigger gap between the popular vote and the electoral college”?
Douthat suggested in his hypothetical: Trump wins Pennsylvania, Texas and Georgia narrowly and wins the electoral college but loses California “in an unprecedented blowout” and the popular vote to Biden, 53-45 percent. Douthat continued his hypothetical: “John Podesta, sort of embodying the Biden campaign and refusing to concede and literally urging California and other blue states to threaten some kind of secession if there isn’t some kind of negotiated deal that gets Trump out of office.” (Podesta served in the administrations of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.)
Goldberg said calls for secession in such a scenario would begin in the states.
“It’s not going to come from John Podesta. It’s not…
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