Millennials, Gen Z More Likely to Use Smartphones to Talk Than in Person: Study

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Nearly two-thirds of millennial and Gen Z adults are more likely to communicate with someone via digital means than in person, according to a newly released study.

LivePerson Inc. announced on Tuesday the findings of a survey they conducted in September, which found that 65 percent of adults aged 18–34 communicated more with people digitally than in person.

“Gen Z and millennials communicate with others more digitally than in person (65 percent). This percentage is even higher in English-speaking countries, with the U.S. (73.7 percent) and U.K. (74.4 percent) relying more heavily on digital channels for communication,” noted LivePerson in a press release.

“Digging deeper, this preference for digital communications is specifically targeted at messaging. When asked if they could only keep either the phone app or messaging/SMS app on their smartphone, a majority of respondents (69.4 percent) would choose the messaging app. This percentage is also higher for those in the U.S. (73.4 percent) and U.K. (73 percent).”

The sample space for the study drew from interviews that LivePerson conducted of 4,000 18–34-year-olds across the U.S., U.K., Germany, Australia, Japan, and France, from Sept. 1–11.

The phone is the new wallet: 61.8% of global consumers ages 18–34 would choose to leave their wallet at home instead of their phone.

Digital is the new IRL (“in real life”): Globally, a majority of Gen Z and millennials (65%) communicate with each other more often digitally than in person.

The phone is now truly an extension of the self: 70.1% of Gen Z and millennials across the globe sleep with their phone within arm’s reach. And 65.5% bring their phone into the bathroom with them.

The future is 100% digital: A majority of Gen Z and millennials around the world (69.5%) can imagine a future where 100% of purchases are done digitally/online.

They also surveyed approximately 1,000 adults aged 35 and older “as a benchmark” to compare their findings among millennials and Gen Z respondents.

Rurik Bradbury, global head of communications and research at LivePerson, said in a statement Tuesday that the study showed digital devices are becoming increasingly integral to people’s everyday lives.

“We wanted to look more closely at the younger consumer audience, across different countries, and in more depth than the well-known trope that young people love their smartphones,” stated Bradbury.

“What we see in the research data is the phone truly becoming an extension of the self, and the platforms and apps within it — digital life — occupying more than their offline interactions.”

LivePerson’s recent study echoes findings from research they conducted last year, in which they found that millennials were more likely than older adults to have used phone apps and social media during a 24-hour period.

“Thirty-eight percent of millennials had used the phone app in the prior 24 hours, more than the older group,” noted the 2016 study.

“Twenty-six percent of millennials said that they used Twitter in the 24 hours prior to the survey, compared with just 14 percent of those ages 35–64.”

This trend is a source of concern for many, with one researcher writing a piece for Psychology Today published in July arguing that there is a link between this increased use and mental illness.

“Addiction to internet technologies is rampant in their generation — and there are all kinds of adverse unintended consequences that are likely to have long-term societal and personal effects on a massive scale,” noted the author.

“It is time that we take systematic measures to address issues associated with internet technology use in our youth. We need to do this for our kids — and we need to do this for our shared future.”

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Though ISIS is Losing Ground, War May be Lost if Christians Can’t Return Home

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Though ISIS is Losing Ground, War May be Lost if Christians Can’t Return Home



A Catholic charity has said that despite victories against the Islamic State terror group, unless world leaders make a change, ISIS may still destroy the Christian population in Iraq and Syria.


“We have seen drastic reductions in the Christian populations in many nations in the Middle East. Iraq might very well have lost 80 percent of their native Christian people,” Edward Clancy, ACNUSA director of outreach, told The Christian Post in an email interview on Wednesday. “Syria might have lost 50 percent. This is compounded by the fact that Christian families have not been secure enough to have many children. The loss of population and the very low birth rate will put great pressure on the Christian communities.


“If we do not help these ancient Christian communities, ISIS might very well have lost the battles but won the war.”


Military forces have managed to take back ISIS strongholds in key cities, such as Raqqa in Syria, which was considered the group’s “capital.”


In ACN’s 2015-2017 report, “Persecuted and Forgotten?,” the group said the persecution of Christians has reached it highest levels. Still, the group said many Christian families have managed to return to their homes as forces drive out ISIS.


“Our solace is knowing that whenever Christians have faced terrible odds, great miracles have happened. Christianity has survived and endured, but we needn’t wait for miracles. We can act. We can help. We should do both.”


Middle East church leaders said they feel “forgotten” by the international community.


“They need our help. It is more than just guaranteeing property rights for returning families. The security of their communities is a major issue. It is about leaders not being afraid to say that these Christians belong in their ancestral towns and that they deserve to be supported and protected,” Clancy said.


 


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Publication date: October 19, 2017

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Gateway Church Pastor Robert Morris Blames America’s Racism on ‘Ignorant White People’

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(Screenshot: Gateway Church)Founding pastor of the 36,000-member Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas, Robert Morris, tells his congregation on Saturday October 14, 2017, that America’s ongoing racism problem is fueled by “ignorant” white Christians

Robert Morris, founding pastor of the 36,000-member Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas, has blamed America’s ongoing racism problem on “ignorant” white Christians and the church for not taking a stand against it by learning more about the problem, which the Bible calls evil.

“We have a problem in our country mainly because white people don’t understand it. It’s really true. And we need to take the time to walk around the issue and see what our brothers and sisters are seeing. And see what they are feeling. But we’ll never know unless we ask,” Morris said in a message he delivered to his church on Saturday. “Instead of simply arguing about a protest or demonstration or something like that, why don’t we sit down and say ‘what are you hearing? What are you seeing? What do you feel?’ And not see it as an issue or history but as people.” 

His comments come as athletes in the NFL, among others, have been taking a knee during the national anthem to protest racial injustice. The protests have divided the country along racial and political lines in recent weeks.

“I believe why we still have this problem today is because of the church,” Morris said. “I don’t believe the church has taken the stand that the church needs to take. And I want us as a church to take a stand. Now when I talk about a lack of understanding, let me show you a scripture, Hosea 4:6 says, ‘my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.'”

Morris first illustrated his sermon, called “A Lack of Understanding,” by presenting an unopened bottle of water with its label intact. He held up it up to the church and asked  congregants what they see on the side they are looking at then revealed what he is seeing on the side he is looking at to reveal two different perspectives.

“But we’re looking at the same bottle, right?” he asked the congregants.

“I’ll never see what you see unless I take the time to walk around the bottle and look at it from your perspective,” he said to applause.

Morris gave three separate definitions of racism but said he believed the most prevalent manifestation of racism in America is defined as “prejudice toward another race. Prejudice is making a judgment about someone without having all the facts.”

(Photo: Instagram)Elaine Fisher, daughter of founding pastor of the 36,000-member Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas, Robert Morris, got married to Ethan Fisher (pictured) in June 2010. They are shown here with their three children.

He then shared from personal experience why he felt white people need to know more about racism.

“I think we’re ignorant of the problem and the depth of it. That doesn’t mean we’re stupid. It doesn’t mean we’re rebellious or anything like that, I’m talking about white people now. It means we’re just ignorant,” he continued. “So today, I’m preaching to all the ignorant white people. So if you’re an ignorant white person just listen. And that’s me too. I’ve been learning some things for the past several years as I’ve met with pastors and friends of mine to help me understand and it has now become personal to me, not just an issue.”

Morris revealed that God first confronted him about his own prejudice when his daughter Elaine was just three. He explained that he used to host a black family in his home and one day, while his daughter was playing with the black man’s son, God asked him if it would be OK for Elaine to marry a black man.

“I said, yes Lord, it is. If he’s a godly man. If he’s a man of good character, if he loves her and if he loves you. Yes, it is OK. And the Lord said, ‘No, is it OK with you?’

“And I knew when He said that, what He was saying is ‘You still have some prejudice that I need to deal with. But I can’t deal with them if I can’t reveal them to you,'” Morris explained.

In June 2010, Elaine got married to Ethan Fisher, a black man who currently works at Gateway Church as the Young Adults pastor. They also have three children.

Morris highlighted seven reasons why the Bible condemns racism.

  • Racism is pure evil (Romans 12:9)
  • Racism is pure self-righteousness (Luke 18:11)
  • Racism violates the great commission (Matthew 28:19)
  • Racism violates the great commandment (John 13: 35)
  • Racism questions God’s creation (Acts 17: 26)
  • Racism questions God’s plan (Revelation 5:9)
  • Racism questions (defies) God (John 3:16)

He then showed a clip of Dr. Kenneth Ulmer, vice-chairman of The King’s University and pastor of Faith Central Bible Church, sharing a chilling encounter he had with racism when he was just 10.

(Photo: Screen shot via Gateway Church)Dr. Kenneth Ulmer vice-chairman of The King’s University and pastor of Faith Central Bible Church tells congregants at Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas, how his family suffered from racism when he was a boy.

“I was the only back piano student at an all-white music school in East St. Louis, Illinois. … There is a tourist attraction on the banks of the Mississippi called The Admiral. Big huge steam ship,” he began.

He explained that people would come from all over America to see the ship. One Saturday, the music school had a field trip to see the ship and he went with his parents. As they were about to board the ship with his class, however, he and his parents were told: “We don’t allow n***ers on this boat.”

“I’m almost 70 years old and I’ll never forget the look on my dad’s face. When that white man put his fingers in my dad’s face. He said ‘we don’t let n***ers on this boat. If you don’t leave boy we gonna run you in,” Ulmer told a hushed room.

“I remember it like it was yesterday. I’ve never forgotten it. And I hated white people. I’m a recovering racist,” he then quipped as his audience chuckled.

“It’s hard to hear that story,” Morrison said after the clip ended. “We’ll never understand until we walk around the other side, what some people that you work with, that live in your neighborhood, that come to our church. What they and their families have been through. And it’s time for the church to stand up and declare that racism is evil and the answer is Jesus Christ,” he said.

“Our nation needs a healing. We keep looking to Washington to solve it; they’re not going to solve it. The church is going to solve this problem,” he said before leading the church in prayer.

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Commit to free speech, Government tells universities

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Jo Johnson, the universities minister, outlined his plans for the new regulator, the Office for Students and said young people and students need to “accept the legitimacy of healthy vigorous debate”.

In this new move, the practice of preventing someone holding views regarded as unacceptable or offensive from contributing to a public debate or meeting, known as “no-platforming”, will end.

Universities and Colleges Christian Fellowship (UCCF) Director, Revd Richard Cunningham gave a statement to Premier:

“I welcome Jo Johnson’s announcement that the Office for Students (OfS) is to be given powers to enforce freedom of speech in our universities. For students to truly flourish and form a robust world view, they need to be in a stimulating environment in which they can encounter new and difficult views.

“Prospective employers do not want a future workforce of graduates who seem thin skinned, humourless and brittle, but rather one that is composed of well-rounded people who have learned to challenge, reject or embrace some of the new and difficult ideas they encountered as students.

“The 160+ university Christian Unions have – despite all this – managed to attract tens of thousands of students in the past few months come to one of their mission events. CUs are essentially a safe, creative and kind space in which all students can consider a radical and challenging message.”

When speaking to Premier during our News Hour programme, the head of public policy for campaign group Christian Concern, Tim Dieppe encouraged people to have healthy arguments:

“We shouldn’t be afraid of ideas we disagree with.

“The truth will win out, the best arguments will win and we should hear them and listen to them, work out what’s wrong with them, if there is something wrong and refute them as they need to be refuted and that’s the way a free society works.”

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We Deserve Preservation, Too .

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A group of historic churches will defend their right to receive historic preservation grants on Tuesday, Oct. 23, at the New Jersey Supreme Court. In FFRF v. Morris County Board of Freeholders, the Wisconsin-based atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation claims that the New Jersey Constitution forbids churches from participating in preservation grant programs available to all historic buildings.

Yet earlier this year in Trinity Lutheran, the U.S. Supreme Court protected a church’s right to participate in generally available public benefits programs, which would include Morris County’s historic preservation grant. Becket filed a friend-of-the-court brief defending Morris County’s grant program and in support of the Catholic, Baptist, Episcopal, Methodist and Presbyterian churches whose buildings have benefited from it.

The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution provides the federal constitution is the “supreme law of the land,” notwithstanding any state laws to the contrary. Thus, under the doctrine of constitutional avoidance, this Court has long interpreted New Jersey law to avoid any conflict with federal law.

Here, however, plaintiffs seek an interpretation of the New Jersey Constitution that would violate controlling Supreme Court precedent. Just three weeks ago, the United States Supreme Court held that excluding an otherwise eligible religious organization from a public benefits program solely because of its religious status “is odious to our Constitution … and cannot stand.”

The implications of Trinity Lutheran for this case and ACLU v. Hendricks are clear: government cannot exclude religious organizations from neutral grant programs without surviving strict scrutiny under the Free Exercise Clause of the United States Constitution. In Trinity Lutheran, Missouri’s Department of Natural Resources offered reimbursement grants to public and private schools, nonprofit day cares and other nonprofit entities that resurfaced their playgrounds using recycled shredded tires.

But Missouri interpreted its constitution to require it to “categorically disqualify” churches and other religious organizations from its public benefits program. Even though Trinity Lutheran Learning Center ranked fifth out of 44 applicants and would have otherwise received funding, its application was rejected solely because it is a church.

The Supreme Court held that the department’s policy “expressly discriminates against otherwise eligible recipients by disqualifying them from a public benefit solely because of their religious character.”

Such discrimination “imposes a penalty on the free exercise of religion that triggers the most exacting scrutiny.”

The Court rejected the government’s argument that there was no serious burden on the free exercise of religion where the state merely denied a subsidy that it “had no obligation to provide in the first place,” and did not directly punish any religious act.

As the Court explained, “the Free Exercise Clause protects against ‘indirect coercion or penalties on the free exercise of religion, not just outright prohibitions.'” Just because a religious institution is free to continue operating as a religious institution, that freedom cannot come “at the cost of automatic and absolute exclusion from the benefits of a public program for which the [religious organization] is otherwise fully qualified.”

Conditioning the availability of a benefit “upon [a recipient’s] willingness to … surrender his religiously impelled [status] effectively penalizes the free exercise of his constitutional liberties.” The Court found that Trinity Lutheran was not claiming “any entitlement to a subsidy,” but rather “a right to participate in a government benefit program without having to disavow its religious character.”

Moreover, the “express discrimination” at issue there was “not the denial of a grant” but instead “the refusal to allow the church—solely because it is a church—to compete with secular organizations for a grant.”

The grant program at issue in this case (and in the accompanying case ACLU v. Hendricks) is governed by Trinity Lutheran. Here, Morris County’s historic preservation grant program is a generally available public benefit whose recipients are selected through a competitive grant application process based on secular criteria and which is open to “all historic sites within the State” without reference to religious status.

The hearing beings Oct. 23, 2017 at 10 a.m.

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Virginia: Pro-life and Pro-Abortion Gov. Candidates in Close Race

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Virginia: Pro-life and Pro-Abortion Gov. Candidates in Close Race



The state of Virginia is in the midst of a close gubernatorial race. The two main candidates are Republican Ed Gillespie and Democrat Ralph Northam.


According to LIfeNews.com, the contest is a very close one, with Gillespie currently up by only one percentage point, as reported by a Monmouth University poll. The eyes of the nation will be on Virginia during this race since it is the only state holding a gubernatorial election this year.


Additionally, much is at stake in this gubernatorial race as the two main contenders each hold very different political views, particularly on the issue of life.


Dave Andrusko of LifeNews reports that Northam is making his pro-abortion stance a main point of his campaign. Gillespie, on the other hand, opposes abortion.


The National Right to Life organization has even endorsed Gillespie:


“National Right to Life has endorsed Republican Ed Gillespie, a 100% pro-life candidate who will sign pro-life laws and support live-saving policies in Virginia to succeed pro-abortion Gov. Terry McAuliffe,” wrote NRL Political Director Karen Cross.


On the other hand, wrote Cross, “The Virginia affiliate of Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion provider, has endorsed Northam. They have pledged to spend $3 million in the race supporting Northam, whose record as a member of the state Assembly was solidly pro-abortion.”


“Northam’s position is so extreme that he supports abortion on demand – that is, abortion for any reason anytime during the pregnancy,” she continued. “This means he supports deliberately taking the life of an unborn baby’s life for any reason at all – even late in pregnancy when the baby can feel excruciating pain during abortion.”


This issue, as well as a host of others, is sure to make this gubernatorial election a memorable one. Remember to get out to the polls on Nov. 7, 2017 and vote.


 


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Publication date: October 19,2017

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Limbless Evangelist Nick Vujicic Says 400,000 Ukrainians Chose to Repent of Sins, Follow Jesus

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(Photo: The Christian Post/Scott Liu)Inspirational speaker Nick Vujicic, who was born without arms or legs, speaks at the National Religious Broadcasters convention on Tuesday, March 5, 2013, in Nashville, Tenn.

Famous evangelist Nick Vujicic said his team witnessed 400,000 people repent for their sins and choose to follow Jesus Christ at a recent event in Ukraine. That was the largest response that the Life Without Limbs ministry has seen.

“The biggest event that our team at Life Without Limbs has seen and maybe the largest event ever in Europe – 800,000 people in the streets of Kyiv Ukraine! Thank you God,” Vujicic wrote on Facebook on Tuesday.

“400,000 repented of their sins and began their spiritual journey with Jesus – Now LWL celebrates the witness of 1 million decisions to walk with and trust God in everything face to face,” he added.

Vujicic, who was born with no arms and no legs, has inspired millions around the world through his ministry, and has gone on numerous world tours inviting people to follow Christ.

The evangelist also made a stop in Russia during his most recent trip, where he stayed for 40 hours.

“Unfortunately I wasn’t able to meet the President this trip but we continue to plant seeds of love and hope across this country until some unique doors open to share – thank you for your support,” he wrote in an update.

Protestant Christians have held several large events in Ukraine. In September, over 500,000 of them took to the streets in Kiev to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation.

Sergey Rakhuba with Mission Eurasia said at the time that the Ukrainian Church has not allowed the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine to slow it down.

“Many traveled from all four provinces there just to be a part of that celebration, to thank God for the freedom to worship, to thank God for the freedom to preach the Gospel in their country, and to celebrate God’s faithfulness,” Rakhuba told Mission Network News at the time.

“It was so exciting to see on the screen of my computer where I was watching young people with so much joy. They glorify God in the midst of their capital. This was the same place where they were protesting just a few years ago fighting for their freedom. But also this is the place where many years ago, communists would force people to demonstrate and propagate socialism, atheism, communism, and other ‘isms’ in their country.”

Vujicic visited Ukraine and other Eastern European nations on his European tour there last year as well.

In one video, he talked about meeting Borut Pahor, the president of Slovenia:

“I just finished a meeting with the president of Slovenia, it was a wonderful encouragement and an enriching time. Tomorrow I will be speaking in front of students here in Slovenia, so please pray for us, and thank you for your love, prayers, and support,” the evangelist said then.

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Divorce on a downward trend

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According to the ONS, in 2016, there were 8.9 divorces of opposite-sex couples per 1,000 married men and women aged 16 and over (divorce rates), an increase of 4.7% since 2015; however, divorce rates in 2016 are over 20% lower than the recent peak in divorce rate in 2003 and 2004.

In opposite-sex marriages, the divorce rate was highest for women in their 30s and men aged between 45 and 49.

ONS spokeswoman Nicola Haines said: “Although the number of divorces of opposite-sex couples in England and Wales increased by 5.8% in 2016 compared with 2015, the number remains 30% lower than the most recent peak in 2003; divorce rates for men and women have seen similar changes.”

However, Harry Benson, the Research Director of Marriage Foundation suggests that the information conceals the overall downward trend in divorce.  In a statement to Premier, he said:

“The headline rise in divorces during 2016 conceals the reality that the long term trend in divorce continues to head downwards. The most recent couples to complete five years of marriage – who got married in 2011 – have experienced 42 per cent fewer divorces than their counterparts who married twenty years earlier in 1991.

“So today’s newlyweds are doing better than any couples who married since the early 1970s. They are also doing far better than their counterparts who don’t marry.

“It’s easy to focus on divorce because marriages and divorces are easy to count. But it’s not divorce that has put Britain at the bottom of the family stability league for the entire developed world.

“It’s the much higher break-up rates among couples who don’t marry, don’t divorce, and are therefore harder to count. “

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MerceMe, Zach Williams Win Big at Dove Awards .

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Kari Jobe performs at the 2017 Dove Awards.
Kari Jobe performs at the 2017 Dove Awards. (Official images were provided by Jamie Gilliam and Grant Exline for Lipscomb University)

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The Gospel Music Association (GMA) handed out honors in 39 categories at the 48th Annual GMA Dove Awards plus special industry recognitions at Lipscomb University’s Allen Arena in Nashville. Kari Jobe and Tasha Cobb Leonard hosted the sold-out show and Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) will exclusively air the awards show on October 22 at 8 p.m. CST. Visit DoveAwards.com for more information.

MercyMe was named Artist of the Year and Zach Williams took home New Artist of the Year. Gospel music legend Pat Boone received the SoundExchange Fair Play Award. From first-time nominees to legends, the all-star lineup came together for one of Gospel and Christian music’s most memorable nights.

Artist of the Year

MercyMe, Fair Trade Services

New Artist of the Year

Zach Williams, Provident Label Group

Song of the Year

“What A Beautiful Name” (writers) Ben Fielding, Brooke Ligertwood, (publisher) Hillsong Music Publishing

Contemporary Christian Artist of the Year

Casting Crowns, Provident Label Group

Gospel Artist of the Year

CeCe Winans, Pure Springs Gospel

Songwriter of the Year (Artist)

Bart Millard

Bluegrass/Country/Roots Album of the Year

Sing It Now: Songs of Faith and Hope: Reba McEntire (producer) Reba McEntire, Jay DeMarcus, Doug Sisemore

Rap/Hip Hope Album of the Year

The Waiting Room: Trip Lee, (producers) Gabriel Azucena, James Foye III, John McNeil, Joel McNeil, Alex Median, Allen Swoope, Almondo Cresso, Chris Mackey, Joseph Prielozny, Tyshane Thompson

ROCK/CONTEMPORARY ALBUM OF THE YEAR:

HARDLOVE – NEEDTOBREATHE, (producers) NEEDTOBREATHE, Joe Levine, Dave Tozer, Ed Cash, Ido Zmishlany

POP/CONTEMPORARY ALBUM OF THE YEAR:

Lifer – MercyMe (producers) Ben Glover, David Garcia

SOUTHERN GOSPEL ALBUM OF THE YEAR:

Resurrection – Joseph Habedank, (producer) Wayne Haun

CONTEMPORARY GOSPEL/URBAN ALBUM OF THE YEAR:

Let Them Fall In Love – CeCe Winans, (producers) Alvin Love III, Tommy Sims

WORSHIP ALBUM OF THE YEAR:

Never Lose Sight – Chris Tomlin, (producers) Ross Copperman, Jeremy Edwardson, Ed Cash

PRODUCER OF THE YEAR:

Bernie Herms

INSPIRATIONAL FILM OF THE YEAR:

The Shack – (directors) Stuart Hazeldine (producers) Netter Productions, Summit Entertainment

See full list of winners here

Select quotes from the evening:

“I want to just say that of all the names that get honored tonight, there is a name that is more powerful and more beautiful, and it is the name of Jesus.” – Hillsong Worship

“Something I’ve come to realize in my life in the last few years is that worship is more about seeing than singing. It’s having your eyes open to the grace of God, the mercy of God, the goodness of God and the holiness of God. I always thought that I just helped people sing with my songs, but I realized that they were really trying to help people see the goodness of God.” – Chris Tomlin

“Christian music saved my life and it means the world to us, means the world to me.” – Bart Millard

“I am so happy to be doing what I’m doing for the Kingdom.” – Tamela Mann

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N. Korean Escapee Says Children, Babies ‘Dying Without Hope,’ Talks Eating Mice to Survive

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(Screenshot: Fox News)Grace Jo, now a U.S. citizen, speaks with Fox News in an interview posted on October 18, 2017.

A North Korean refugee whose two younger brothers died of starvation says children and babies are “dying without hope” under Kim Jong Un’s regime.

Grace Jo, 26, who now studies at Montgomery College in Rockville, Maryland, told Fox News in an interview on Wednesday that the world must stop the North Korean regime and its killing of innocent people, but added that she doesn’t want to see a military intervention.

“Child, babies and moms are dying without any hope,” Jo said.

The refugee said that she and her family escaped three times to China, but were captured and sent back to North Korea.

Starvation led to the deaths of her two younger brothers, and her father was tortured by police for smuggling a bag of rice from China.

On one occasion Jo’s family had to survive 10 days without food before finding six baby mice in a field, which the grandmother used to make soup.

“We almost gave up our life, but it is kind of a miracle, a miracle happened to my family to survive,” she said.

Jo, who is now a U.S. citizen, explained that after one escape she was caught and sent to intelligence center prison.

“I saw the North Korean agents torturing adults there and yelling them, it was kind of a scary place. It was dark and had no lights, small room with many people at the night so many insects walking on the wall and a dark hole with a fence around, so it was really scary,” she said.

Jo called for action against the North Korean regime, which has threatened to attack the U.S. on multiple occasions, but said she didn’t support targeted bombing to dismantle the regime, as she fears such a strike would also kill many innocent people.

Grace has received the North Korean Freedom Scholarship program, which is run by the President George W. Bush Institute. The $25,000 fund was established to help North Korean escapees “pursue higher education and build productive, prosperous lives as new Americans.”

Others, such as Korean-American missionary Robert Park, who once was held and tortured by North Korea, also recently warned that a military option could kill many of the hidden Christians there.

“Please kindly be reminded that a large number of underground Christians are within North Korea. They are the most persecuted religious group in the world, according to international religious freedom watchdogs groups. As I pray your team accepts upon deep reflection, it would be decidedly un-Christian to countenance indiscriminate killings of those who are among the people in the world who suffer the most,” Park wrote in an open letter to President Donald Trump earlier this month.

He added that even high-ranking North Koreans “are in actual fact slaves and are suffering gravely also.”

Choi Kwanghyuk, a North Korean defector who now lives in Los Angeles, told The Christian Post earlier this month that many of the Christians being held inside the country’s labor camps are refusing to renounce their faith, despite pressure to do so.

Reflecting on what prison guards have told him, Choi said: “They often talked about how stubborn Christians are. Even though they are offered release by signing a contract renouncing their religion, they do not accept this offer. Some of them feel that living inside the political camp is better than going outside because they foresee that it will be difficult for them to adapt to the outside society.”

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